In this conversation, Rob Kelly and Adam Mills discuss the multifaceted aspects of safety in cycling, particularly in criterium racing. They explore the physiological impacts of race neutralization, the identification of dangerous parts of a race, and the importance of technicality in making racing safer. The discussion also delves into course design, equipment regulations, and the role of speed in safety. They emphasize the need for rider education and responsibility, highlighting that safety is a collective obligation among all participants in the sport.